Oh okay Michael, thank you for explaining that to me. I get it now and I really do appreciate you and others taking the time out of your own busy schedules to help me. To tell you the truth I didn't understand what "shill" meant until I looked it up right now. So I really do get what you and Don are saying now. I personally would never ask anyone to bid on something to drive the price up on any of my auctions. But, I do get that we live in a goofy world and I understand why people might think that I or anyone else might do that. About the reserve amount...I prefer on auctions that are valuable to me to have a reserve amount, that way I won't lose it for less then I expect. Especially with this poker chip because it truly is a one of a kind. Thanks,Alicia