Jason, there's something you don't know that many people on the board do know, and that is that the weave mold is currently available for use by anyone who wants to design a chip. It's a popular mold pattern for personal chips, and you can go online, right now, and order your chips and have the same colors, same inserts, and the same hot stamping.

I've found, since I'm pretty new on this board too (I thought I knew a lot more than I knew because I'd been collecting for over 15 years), that with illegals, they aren't what they seem to be just because they say they are. I've found out that a number of chips that I accepted as genuine for years, are highly in doubt as to their authenticity. Sucks to be me, but I'm learning.

Don't take offense at the way most on the board respond to questions. Chip collectors are pretty anal (in a nice way) in that they don't pretend to have a fact when really what they have is an opinion. They clearly mark opinions as opinions, and when new chips appear they are subject to intense scrutiny.

I'm still at a point that I'm not always sure I know what it is I don't know. Once I start knowing what I don't know is when I can start knowing what I know.

There's another pair of buttons you should know about.

1. People on the board expect to see the names of people posting. They want to know who they're talking to. You'll notice almost all have a CCGTCC number displayed as well.

2. By and large, people on this board don't take the term 'Rare' lightly. It's defined in a couple of chip catalogs, and posters (and eBayers) are expected to describe their chip's rarity accurately. If you don't KNOW what it is, you say I Don't Know.

Welcome to the Board. I didn't pay much attention to the thread because I don't know squat about illegals outside Kentucky and Florida.