"Could there be improvements within the industry? Of course there could be. Will the reform to the point that they become acceptable to some in this hobby? I would surmise given the stance by some, probably not. However, by working against them rather than trying to work with them, they will not change."

John, I don't care if they change or not. I will continue to work against them even if they do change. I would try to bring the Slabfree List and Slabree Club against them also. I am only one person in the two groups but I would do by best to rally them if needed.