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Can a Christian be a good American?

I think that it probably would be difficult to find any of the world's religions that could be considered "good Americans" if they were to be examined by the criteria as laid out in your post. I found the following on the internet - the reasons that Christians can not be considered good Americans. And I'm sure that we could find something for Jews, Buddhists, etc.

That said, in my opinion it isn't the religion that makes a person a good American (or good person for that matter) - it is how they live their life.

Theologically, no, because his allegiance is to Yahweh, the ancient Hebrew god.

Explanation: the first commandment (commanding worship of Yahweh and forbidding worship of false idols) instructs Christians to hold Yahweh in the highest regard. In the event of conflict between Yahweh's commandments and local (human) law, the Christian would have no choice but to disregard local law in favour of Yahweh's orders. This means that a Christian's loyalty is to his god first, and his country second. See Exodus 20:2-6.

Scripturally, no, because his allegiance is to Christianity and the bible.

Explanation: again, the first commandment instructs Christians to hold their loyalty to Yahweh in higher regard than anything here on Earth.

Geographically, no, because his allegiance is to Israel, the home of "god's chosen people".

Explanation: a common interpretation of the book of Revelations is that world war III will take place in Israel and will herald the second coming of Christ. See Revelations. Israel is held in particularly high regard by Christianity not just because of its historical significance, but also because it is the home of the descendants of Jacob, to whom Yahweh allegedly gave the holy land. See Leviticus 20:24. Also see Numbers 24:8-9. The United States of America has no biblical significance and is never once referenced by the bible, meaning there is no particular reason for any Christian to hold the United States in higher regard than Israel.

Socially, no, because his allegiance to Christianity forbids him to make friends with Muslims or Jews.

Explanation: Christianity holds people of other religions in extremely low regard, and the bible goes so far as to advocate violence and death towards non-Christians. See Deuteronomy 13:6-18, also see 2 Chronicles 15:13, also see Mark 16:16

Politically, no, because he must submit to his spiritual leaders, who teach annihilation of all who do not share their faith.

Explanation: see previous point.

Domestically, no, because he is encouraged to take slaves and beat them if they are disobedient.

Explanation: Slavery is an example of conflict between Yahweh's laws and local (human) laws. Slavery was abolished in the USA long ago, yet the bible clearly states on numerous occasions that slavery is perfectly acceptable, and even provides guidelines for master/slave interaction. See Leviticus 25:44, also see 1 Peter 2:18. The bible also clearly states that it is acceptable for a master to beat the slave (provided the slave doesn't die as the result of the beating), even though under US law such a beating would be forbidden. See Exodus 21:20-21.

Religiously, no, because no other religion is accepted by his Yahweh except Christianity - intolerance.

Explanation: See the first commandment (Exodus 20:2-6).

Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the separation of church and state - a founding principle of the USA.

Explanation: A commonly held misconception among Christians is that the USA was founded as a Christian nation and somehow became secular over time. These Christians wish to remove the separation between church and state, and convert the US into a theocracy. The public school system in particular is a hotly contested battleground, with Christians arguing that religion (their religion only, of course) should be taught as fact. After all, the bible warns against learning things outside of the church (see Colossians 2:8).

Philosophically, no, because Christianity, Yahweh, and the bible do not allow freedom of religion and expression.

Explanation: Actually, Christianity does allow free expression, just as long as everything you say is in perfect agreement with their teachings. If you choose to speak out against Christianity, say, by encouraging people to investigate other religions, then you have crossed the line and should be put to death (Exodus 22:20). Freedom of religion is also allowed, just as long as you choose the Christian religion. Choosing any other religion is forbidden (See the first commandment). True freedom of expression and true freedom of religion both run counter to the fundamental guiding principles of Christianity.

Democratically, no, because Christianity and democracy cannot coexist.

Explanation: Democracy only works if ALL citizens are held in equal regard. The US Declaration of Independence states that "all men are created equal", yet this is in direct contradiction to the bible, which states that non-believers are inferior (see Exodus 22:20 or 2 Chronicles 15:13). Therefore, why should the Christian accept non-Christians as his equal? And in a Christian-run democracy, how long would it be before a law is passed forbidding non-Christians from participating in the democratic process? That isn't democracy - it's theocracy.

Spiritually, no, because the Christian god is neither loving nor kind.

Explanation: See Numbers 11:1, Exodus 15:7, Deuteronomy 5:9, Exodus 4:11, Ezekial 4:15, Leviticus 26:27-35, and many other passages too numerous to list here.

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