Bob you said "If I remember right, GM lost $12 billion last year. If cutting costs any way possible to get to a break even point is corporate greed, I must be missing something." -Yes you are missing the point - How can a corperation (GM) lose $12 billion and build New plants in forgien countries at the same time and spend another $2 billion on top of that in (China)- all they did was take from here and move it to china ( $$)- I wish I could lose $$ that way. They saved $$ here by closeing plants. but they ( GM )call it a Loss????