Mark, if you want to tell me what this ash tray is worth I will respect your opinion. I do not think these type of comments are what Greg inteded this board to be used for. I come here to ask questions, answer questions, or to compliment someone. I do not come here to express my political views. There are other boards better suited for these purposes. If you want to debate something within the hobby fine but don't waste space here for your narrow minded political views.