Open up LM to all new members and I'll drink the kool-aid.

Stu, I think you have imbibed said kool-aid already...you shouldn't have thrown that sugar cube in it though....you're having a bad trip again

Turtle Fact: most turtles are very nice, quiet animals. Those from VA beach, however, are prone to uncontrollable bouts of grouchiness and arguing moot points.

How about being a non-confrontational turtle for a day? just a thought....
Mike