Yes, Don, I agree with you on the civilized debate. It's nice to have an intelligent conversational debate with valid points without insults.

Perhaps it comes from the respect for others opinion's even if they are different then your own.

In the case of me debating with Archie...it's a matter of having respect for his opinion, even though he's wrong. Archie can't help it...I think it's all that nasty salt air!!