all i suggested that we have a 2 yr limit on national club officers, i never suggested any one was doing a bad job . i also sugggested we have a personel chip contest , no body at the top knew how to handle it so they put me in charge of it , if you want to get a lot of negative comments about you , just bring up the building fund . ask how the fund is doing, and how much is in it, the more money that goes into in the more it should be watched by several people, i will be at the convention this year , i will be happy to discuss any of these issues with any one , joe pavlik , i arrive in vegas on aug 2 staying at the rivera , feel free to call my room and i could meet up with you . if you do this i will have one of my personel chips for you thank you joe pavlik