They just dont hold up, Yes they are pretty But I would never use them In a home poker game because I dont like the feel of them, They dont seem real, rather they feel more like a toy. I thought the Palms used them more than 15 percent, All the kiss ones their house 1.00 ones and I do have a few others that I thought to be chipcos like the ozzy ones, Regardless I see alot of them on eBay and I think they produce too many different ones (Four Queens also) But I dont buy them all. Just a few for fun. I recently saw some Hilton Starlight Express chips on ebay from jcgamble but they looked too worn for my taste and I passed them by. I guess your either a Ford man or a chevy man!!!!! I dont want to talk this hobby down as It is truly a fabulous hobby with something for everyone. Thanks to all for the postings I really enjoyed it. Happy Chippin' John (Neonnites)