.... I have already stood corrected Archie. LE's are good for the hobby. People who collect HR LE's are not part of CC & GTCC and (I assume you mean not part of the hobby of chip collecting). There have been no complaints on the chipboard about low quantities and too frequent issues from the Hard Rock or any other casino, or that a $25 LE goes for $2500, I have never seen a new house chip do that in less then a week. I was wrong. I do not know why people stop collecting LE's if they even do. Because I do not collect them does not make them junk or that I had mistakenly thought there had been threads complaining about how LE issues were managed does not make them junk as Gene implied I said.