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Not what I expected at all...Either!
In Response To: Cal Neva Repaired Chip Xray ()

Ow! We've still got some work ahead of us on this question. At this point, can we be certain of what we're looking at? We're just going to have to get a catalogue of sample x-rays of various chips to use for comparison. Are we certain that x-ray is really truely going to show altered chips? We can't be sure at this point IMO.

What of the artifacts that show up in Dr. Myers film in the center of the chip? I've played around with the scans in some image editors but I sure don't know what I'm looking at but I'm NOT discounting Trimble and Myers thoughts at all! The inlay is covering whatever is at the heart of the matter, so to speak. The reason I'm reticent to ID what we're looking at is because of the xray film I have of a Whelan chip.

Mr. Whelan seems forthcoming with his blooming reputation as a chip "craftsman" so he'll have to wear all the sundry baggage that goes with it, including suspicion of the integrity of every chip that orginates from him. The image I present shows a commonly drilled low value chip and an apparently undrilled example (still not a high end chip by any means) that I purchased from Dave in '03. What I see on the xray is where my disappointment with this Cal-Neva film occurs. There are shadows in the center of both chips and the most distinct one is in the center of the drilled chip. BTW, xray films are very difficult to present in this BB forum and don't compare well to the actual xray film image.

What is showing in the center of these chips that I have? Something in the manu process that effects density or thickness? Adhesive? Added material for weight and what would that material be? Seems to me we're going to have to build up a sample file of all kinds of chips from different periods before we'll really have certainty of what we see in xrays. Also if the club can access some eggheads in different fields that want to do forensics on suspect and legit chips we'd have that data to draw on also. Maybe the next time those CSI guys are draggin' someone outa the Palms we could interest them in the project.

Anyway, I believe what Gene believes about this chip and I'd like to see the club or members continue to look into this situation. Gosh, how'd this thing get so long! sad Apologies...

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Cal Neva Repaired Chip Xray
Re: Cal Neva Repaired Chip Xray 2
Gene .. I don't get all this fuss about ....
Fraud is Fraud, whether $1 or $1mm !!
Either keep up or stay out ... !!!
Re: SO SUTTON WAS RIGHT ABOUT YOU !
Your Post is Embarrassing to Yourself ... !!!
Re: Fraud is Fraud, whether $1 or $1mm !!
Re: Thank you Gene. Count on me for support.
Re: Cal Neva Repaired Chip Xray
You know Norm. When I was offered the 90 drilled
Re: You know Norm. When I was offered the 90 drill
Norm, I've got one...
Re: Bingo Thanks Mark
Here's a fuzzy photo
Finally, I have to add....
Re: I dont doubt past explanations
Re: You know Norm. When I was offered the 90 drill
Re: sure would be interesting
David ... Your quote is .........
No Jim - you have misunderstood
David ... No, I am not being ....
Re: David ... No, I am not being ....
Re: David ... No, I am not being ....
Well then, they need a Dentist at the Cage !!
What are the details of the $60k?
You are right David ...... and .......
Re: You are right David ...... and .......
David .... it's 2005 now .....!
Im well aware what year it is
So are yours ... why don't we quit ??
Perhaps you ought to read the archives ...
Re: Perhaps you ought to read the archives .Jim
Re: David ... No, I am not being ....
Re: David ... No, I am not being ....
Re: David ... No, I am not being ....
Re: David ... No, I am not being ....
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Norm .. I agree wholeheartedly ....!!
Norm ....... I think you should lead .......
Re: Cal Neva Repaired Chip Xray
What would make you think the chips
Re: What would make you think the chips
Gene and others....
Not what I expected at all
Re: Not sure what I expected
Re: Not sure what I expected
Re: Gene
Re: Norm
Re: Norm
Re: Norm & Gene--Help !!!
Re: Norm & Gene--Help !!!
Not what I expected at all...Either!
Re: Not what I expected at all...Either!
Too late at night for me to continue discussing
Quincy is Needed Here .......
Re: Capt BJ
Trivializing, mocking and discounting
Obviously a Banjo is Smarter than ....
Re: Obviously a Banjo is Smarter than ....
Re: $$$$$$$$..
Re: $$$$$$$$..
Re: Obviously a Banjo is Smarter than ....
Re: Obviously a Banjo is not Smarter than Archie
A simple answer

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