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Count the positive posts for Rene's made up chips:
http://www.thechipboard.com/cgi-bin/tcbarc07/tcbarc07.pl?read=215714
and here
http://www.thechipboard.com/cgi-bin/tcbarc07/tcbarc07.pl?read=215148
In my opinion there is no difference between Marks's chips and Rene's chips.
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