"If the ANA would have had the bone back to hold their ground against the adoption of 11 uncirculated grades I belive the slabbers would not even be here today. But they buckled."

It was the ANA who started the whole mess with their ANACS (American Numismatic Association Certification Service) ... and then sold the grading service to private concerns after agreeing not to compete for X number of years.

BTW: Thanks for the unsolicited mention of my A.C. catalog and for the membership application that is published in it. Glad to hear that you are joining. Let me be one of the first to welcome you to the club.