And just so you know how else it can be done.... I don't need full stacks, I only need about 7 chips. That covers my own chip and people I service and a few traders. I play multiple rows of 3 and 6 numbers which means I cover about 2/3 of the numbers every spin. I am playing to get chips not gamble. After I get my chips in my pocket, I play until I lose a spin (or just get tired of playing)at which point I cash out. Cash out as soon as the dealer removes the number marker from the board. When I get my denominated chips I QUICKLY! go behind the nearest bank of slots and keep moving. I have only been stopped twice in 10 years and both times it was at Ballys in Tunica. First time I took a stack of 19. OOOPS. *VBG*