I've only been collecting for around 5 or 6 years--certainly not long enough to dispute the "experts."

However, if you will look in Armin's new book on page 85, you will see these chips listed as I have described them- both in mold and origination. Armin also has a Top Hat Cub listed in Holtsville as you described above but these are not those chips.

I don't have Eastman's book so if any dispute is arising from this posting, it should be worked our betwen Eastman and Armin.