Thanks Rick. I took a great leap and assumed (oops what does that say about me?) Gene meant Howard Herz is the Guru of collecting chips from the Masons. Which I also assumed is like the BPOE chips.

Then I did a bit of searching on Google and see that HH has written several books. With further searching I found Robert Eisenstadt's mold index and discovered that Mason is a type of mold.

I love to research things... Am I even close?