I'm not against HR chips, I like the HR chips. It's the program I'm disappointed in. Sure, there are good things but in the HR case, the bad always outweighs the good. Issue a fair amount of chips to BOTH the collector and Hard Rock, give accurate release info and NOT re-release older LE's that already have a market and value established is all ANY collector or club member could ask for. If they were to follow these THREE simple rules, you'd NEVER see a bad post about the Hard Rock on ANY BB service! If you did, then I think the 'crybaby' term would apply.