Well, I like to call it Bird Suits because it makes me smile when I say it! Have also heard a name using thunderbird suits. If you do an archive search you may find the discussion we had about this one several months ago, possibly 1st quarter '02. The bird has a thunderbolt down the center of its body. It was first used by an American Indian gaming supply company who also used another mold using 4 suit pips seperated by a long dash. The info as I remember it was that the chips are now being made overseas (Asia) and we were unable to determine if the original gaming company was still active. Last I saw, Robt. Eisenstadt hadn't posted any information on either mold as he was still researching it. http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/molddesignindex_site.htm Couldn't tell you about the Barona chip but the mold is in current use.