... if everyone in our hobby used terminology consistently.

>> Look in the book Nevada Casino Promotional tokes (An
>> excellent book I might add) has pages and pages of chips and
>> checks that should be removed because they are not tokens as
>> you state the title implies.

Seems to me it would be easier (and more useful) to change the name of the book.

>> The use of token means any disk or coin like object that
>> is used as an exchange for money. This is not just a numismatic term.

Maybe not, but it is still not correct in our hobby, which uses the terms commonly used by casinos. Does any casino use the term "tokens" to describe its chips (or checks)?

>> if you do not want to use "numismatic" term then you
>> do not consider "chips' a "numismatic" item.

That doesn't necessarily follow, Mark. There's no question that casino chips/checks/jetons/tokens (take your pick) are numismatic items. I just think when discussing casino items, casino terminology should be used.

----- jim o\-S