Bruce; Please allow me to respond to both of your posts here.

First; You asked, "Why do we mess with coinclub.com?"
A. To demonstrate what others have been saying all along is true! You just read it with your own eyes. You now know it to be true for sure.

Your second post read, "Chippers are Chippers, and coin collectors are coin collectors. The two are miles apart. Coin collectors collect their stuff with the value of the coins being the most important thing. Chip collecting is not like that."

Ahhh,Bruce; but the gap could easily be narrowed. Chip collecting could easily become just like our coin collecting cousins if we allow it to. ICG is spending a lot of time and money to win our hearts, minds and wallets over to their way of thinking.

As Jim Reilly pledges, "Not on my (his) watch".... "Not in my hobby". ICG would love to become part of this "hobby". Of course they will substitute the word "industry" for hobby, just like the coin industry that used to be called a hobby.

And while I'm at it .... just to prove another point. If you will go once more to www.coinclub.com and click on "Clubs" .... guess what you will find listed there. CASINO CHIPS AND GAMING TOKENS COLLECTORS CLUB, with my name and address, because I was contacted by this so-called coinclub.com several years ago requesting to list our organization on their hypocritical website ..... which they no longer want to hear from, because it may offend their only sponsor. Does anyone here think that ICG does not influence Matt after reading his lame excuse why he alone decides which posts gets the axe and which ones stay? Does anyone here agree that Matt is quick to delete posts that he feels may offend his bosses at ICG? Did it make any sense to delete the whole slabbing thread because one regular contributor on that board typed in A$$HOLE? I think Matt doth protesteth too much about his so-called independence. I think ICG owns Matt's soul! If he were so damn independent, he wouldn't care what anybody posted at ICG COIN CLUB! See, what Matt still doesn't understand is that chips are money... just like coins are. In early Colonial America, the Indians used shells (wampum) as a substitute for money in trade with the settlers. Chips and tokens are genuine numismatic items.... just like coins.

Hey Matt ... Delete This!