My red Sally chip came in 2 boxes of 100 chips each I bought in the late '70's from a a Mass. dealer. The box contained a number of "machined" chips, plyust C&S or inlay as the case may be of chips like the Sally. Several N.O. O'Dwyers machined chips were in them. What I thought to be the "manufactured"--a man by the name of Wlaters from Detroit, had his personal chips in there as well. There were many overstamped chips. Allan Myers told me that Walters was a Detroit distributor or dealer. I had bought a few individual chips from the woman before she sold me the two boxes. I assume, therefore, that these chips were his sample chips or from his collection. Now that's a whole lot of words that add up to "I don't know where Sally's is." I wish I could have been in Reno, Rich, but some of us blue collar types have to work for a living.<g>