Peter,

Thank you for your info. I appriciate that you, as a member of "the list", have agreed to give me, "the unknowing", a reasonable arguement of fact.

I agree that it is an issue that we, as "the club", would allow an outsider to develop and promolgate a gradding system. But is the ansewer to ban all grading systems, or to develop one on our own? I know it would be nice to keep the hobby the way it is, but "progress" happens, for the better or worse. The only choice is do we control it by leading, or do we let it control us by objecting.

This might resolve an internal issue of mine that has existed since I purchased my first copy of the chip rack (another "death to the hobby" event in its self if I remember correctly). Does condition (grade) matter?

The first and second issue of the "Casino Chip Guide" says it does. Should we ban broad subjective grading, or just detailed grading? Or is the issue in not the development of a grading system, but in who gets to say what sample is what grade.

Bernie