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Thanks for sharing this information ...

... David. I hope you will stay with the discussion a little further.

>> I was present at the creation of the Hobby protection Act back when Justin
>> Dingfelder o the FTC wrote it and ther egs. I was present at the hearings
>> that Bob Eckert of Texas held on the measure, where Virgil Hancock of the ANA
>> testified. I have researched the law on this subject better than anyone
>> outside the government.

Can you clarity for us:

1) During the preparation of this Act and the regs, was the term "casino chips" ever included or used in any way?

2) When Virgil Hancock testified, did he refer in his testimony to casino chips?

3) In your research of this law, have you ever found any case, regulation, opinion or any other legal citation which specifically says that casino chips ARE included in the coverage of the act?

>> Nothing could be more obvious than the inclusion of a casino chip. <<

It's not all that obvious to me -- and the normal rules of statutory construction would seem to preclude the expansive reading you are giving to the term (which is otherwise specifically defined in the statute itself).

I concede that I have no particular expertise in this area of the law. But, I'd much rather have something more concrete than the language of this statute on which to rely if I was going to go to court over the issue. ----- jim o\-S

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What do the Candidates say about Hobby Protection?
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"HOBBY PROTECTION ACT"
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