Mark Lighterman was kind enough to pass the thread along to me. I haven;t read all of it. Just let me briefly comment. I was present at the cration of the Hobby protection Act back when Justin Dingfelder o the FTC wrote it and ther egs. I was present at the hearings that Bob Eckert of Texas held on the measure, where Virgil Hancock of the ANA testified. I have researched the law on this subject better than anyone outside the government. That doesn't amke my views correct. Nor does it make them authoritative. The regualtions governing the Hobby protection Act, 16 CFR part 304 provides, sec 304.1(f) that an original numismatic tiem si "anything which has been part of a coinage or issue which has been used in exchange or has been used to commemorate... such term includes coins, tokens, paper money and cmmemorative medals". Nothing could be more obvious than the inclusion of a casino chip. Even the Franklin Mint's mini coins were covreed by this. So were pseudo-coins like the maria Teresa Thaler. Jsut remembre: Hobby protection Act has a private cause of action,, unlike most other government statutes. Not one to mess with lightly. best David L Ganz