Archie, one more snag in this can of worms. We go to a lot of the Indian casinos and for some reason, when I ask for the slot club, they act like I am speaking anything but English. I have learned to say "player's card club". Now THAT, they understand. Also, it can't be a card club, we don't collect cards from the tables. Ha! To make it simple, we could call it "Pat's collectors club"! Ha! JUST KIDDING!!!!! I can hear the booing all the way to Colorado! Daryl just told me, NO ONE want's to collect "Pat's". Any suggestions? I may have to drive to Michigan to meet with Albert on one of his free days to get all this worked out. You buying lunch Albert? If you all came here--I'd buy. Pat