Rich, I have a hard time putting value on illegal chips. I leave that to others. I only know, I want them. I will wait on high priced chips. Example: I paid $3 for my Floridian $50. Personally, I would never pay $3,000 for any chip.

I have heard others say, a crest and seal illegal is worth more than a hot stamp. Floridian was owned in part by Big Al, Arrowhead was owned by Moe Dalitz and the Cleveland boys. I have heard Big Al's name makes the Floridian chip more valuable. Who knows???????

IMO, scarce is a relative word. None today could be a full box tomorrow. Chips are not something a person throws away. They are put in attics, basements, and closets. They are forgotten about for years.

"John B's words"
"Since I've sold examples of the "50" (100 known) which currenty realize $300 at eBay, and the "1" (only 4 undrilled known in collections) which have sold for $675, $1000, $2200 and the last example at $3000...that's about all I can say regarding value of the example seen above. Personally, I'll pay above any value mentioned for an example in its original state of preservation."

"Back to me"
Floridian $50 - 100 known = $300
Floridian $1 - 4 known = $3,000
Arrowhead black - 7 known, have been offered at $300 each - no takers.

Who is right and who is wrong? Who knows? The buyers decide.
I will buy a Floridian $1, $10, and $100 as soon as someone finds a box of them in an attic. <g>

In other words, I have no answer to your question!!!!!!!!