I still get excited when I find a chip "new" to me--or discover that a C&S in my junk box is actually attributable to a real club. And I love Ed Hertel, Gene Trimble and the others who give us the histories of the illegal clubs. It will always be a hobby to me, John. Of course, I don't try for the LE's anymore so don't get caught up in the hot burning fires of the Cure and other debates.