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Re: Well, I succeeded at one thing ...

I'm going to agree with Michael on this. However now you have led us into a discussion of what is an item's value.

1) Michael says an item is worth what people will pay for it.
2) Professor Reilly <g> says that items have intrinsic value.
3) Marx says an items value is a measure of the labor that created it.

(btw Micheal is right)
However we do not really have to answer this question. The real question is what does Bob reasonably expect this auction to measure.

If the rules prohibit shill bidding then Bob reasonably expects that he will buy the item at the value determined by #1 above. In the example of the $20 minimum bid he risks the possibility that the value as measured by #1 may actually be lower than the minimum bid, but he knows this before he bids.

If the rules permit shill bidding then Bob would have no reason to expect that the value of his item was being measured by #1 above.

Bottom line is that if Bob reasonably expects that he is buying the item at the price that other people (at least those at the auction) are willing to pay, shill bidding robs him of this expectation.

I don't feel like I am on the the witness stand, but I just had a law school flashback.

Messages In This Thread

Shill Bidding ... some critical thinking ...
Re: Shill Bidding ... some critical thinking ...
Who said anything about eBay ...
J.E. -Slow down and RETHINK about what you wrote!
Re: J.E. -Slow down and RETHINK about what you wro
Jim E. - Thanks for followup posting....
Re: Shill Bidding ... some critical thinking ...
Well, I succeeded at one thing ...
Re: Well, I succeeded at one thing ...
Moving in the right direction ...
Shill bidding should be prohibited ...
Getting there Larry ...
Re: Moving in the right direction ...
Re: Moving in the right direction ...Steve
Re: Well, I succeeded at one thing ...
I'm not trying to "justify" anything ...
Re: I'm not trying to "justify" anything
See THE POINT ...
More critical thinking, please ...
Re: More critical thinking, please ...
Good rules and Confucius is ...
Re:shill or reserve
I have never sold a thing on eBay ...
My momma tried to teach me ...
shill or reserve
Re: My momma tried to teach me ...Suzie Seller
Are you a lawyer in secret ...
I think I've just been insulted!
No insult, Larry, just trying to ...
Re: More critical thinking, please ...
Re: More critical thinking,ETHICS
Oh, Jack, have you ever asked ...
You have done the same thing ...
Re: More critical thinking, please ...
Expectation or ...
Re: Shill Bidding ... some critical thinking ...
Rich, EXCELLENT reply!! (EOM)
Why ...
Re: I give up...
Don't give up yet, Rich ...
Re: I give up...
Re: I give up...
This is the most fun I've had on the board ...
Re: Gene Again!!!!!!!
Nice and clearly stated opinion ...
The real costs and harm of shill bidding..
Thanks for a very thoughtful ...
Re: Thanks for a very thoughtful ...
Some additional thoughts ...

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