OK, Ive only done this once but it was my first any so far only attempt at The El Dorado in Reno. I played about an hour for fifty cent chips. A lovely lady was plastered and kept ordering more drinks. As was I! Each time the ball was spun I kept five chips in each hand. As I knew it was going to happen she spilled her drink on the table and in horrorI stood up with everyone else, pocketed the chips, promptly tipped the dealewr and asked for house chips and left. Might work again. I dont know! Don