I see several people knocking the new LE's. And yes I agree some issues are a little far out and the casinos are trying to maximize profits. So I guess my question is directed at some of you old timers. Do you remember when we had to wait months, even years for new joints to open so we could add a couple of new chips to our collections? I sure do. Those were the good ol' days, bull#### collecting is now more fun, challenging, and interesting than it has ever been. The great part is know one ever forces anyone to buy anything, so if you don't like something, don't buy it, but why put something down that another collector might be thrilled to add to his collection. I applaud the efforts of the members who try to educate the new collector but please think how it might make them feel to come on this board and see a dealer or an old timer or a book auther knocking something that they are proud of in there collection. Just my opinion. Jim