Jim and Jim - Earlier this year I was trying to get some publicity for the convention and the club in general in several local magazines. I was unable to get in touch with Dennis Zeller so I called Janice O'neal and she helped me out. She apparently also tried to contact Dennis without success. After receiving her permission as VP of the club to list various pieces of information about the club in several magaiznes we discussed club promotions. Apparently there is no promotion of the club in general that comes from the club. I agree with you two that there is more that needs to be done in the future if we are to continue to grow as a national organization. At one point in my conversation with Janice I even stated that while I would not fight anyone for the rights, if necessary, I would volunteer to be the publicity director next time. Something need to be done.