Thanks Paul; What we are witnessing in my opinion, is a repeat of history in the coin hobby. First came grading..... a innocent sounding, well-meaning, project .... then came the profit motive of charging many multiples for coins that didn't have a blemish.... then came the grading services to make a buck on the whole deal. That's what I think Gene had in mind when he said this is only the beginning. I yeild to the "KISS" principle on the grading issue.... and to many other controversial discussions on this bb..... "Keep It Simple Stupid" (no, not you Paul). <g>