I hae to admit, you got my riveted attention on that choice of words to lead off your post Jim.... <g> ..... but your information is incorrect. There are no two "faces" of Archie. One side of this very flattering chip that Gene Trimble is responsible for, says "Founder" the other side says "11 years of Service". There are chips that say "founder" on both sides and there are chips that say "11 years of service" on both sides. The "normal" chip has different quotes on each side but the photo is the same on both sides. I was kidding Gene when he surprised me on my birthday by presenting a set of these much appreciated chips to me and my wife Brenda..... I said, "Gene, this chip says, "Fiesta & Chipco, Archie Black Founder"..... I guess that makes me your boss as there is no reference to the club on the chip!" Gee, I wonder if I have stock options I don't know about in both companies? <vbg> Thanks, Gene. I love ya!