Hi Carl; I do hope that you will take that long hot drive through the desert from Orange County again next week and visit with many fine chip and gaming token dealers at our annual national convention at the Orleans Hotel. The convention is open to the public on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, and has only a $2 per day admission charge for non-club members. You will get a real eye-opening experience by comparison shopping and how much certain chips retail for at close to 100 dealer booths. You may even find one or two dealers selling these same chips at higher prices! I can guarantee most will be offering them for considerably less. Come visit us first-hand. You may even like what you see. As for the "snakes", I only found one in eleven years as club President.