Now I am mad!!!!!
my modum line was down for 24 hours, and a good question was asked. Everybody gave all the answers that I would have given.

Paul, I have always traded face for face or value for value. Buy the books, know your chips and know what you want. I want everything, so I have to know a lot. Everything is available. I have the Bugsy chip-I traded value for value. I had no money in my part of the trade. Result about $1,000 bugsy trade was free to me. Take your time, everything is available at one time or another. If you have to have it today, it could cost more than you want to pay. If on the other hand, you are willing to pay, you have no complaint coming. Thats called HINDSIGHT.