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My oldest son, after we discussed my exchange with the seller "bookdealer" (posted here previously), reviewed feedback entries and wrote to bookdealer for information. Am reproducing below the message he sent me with bookdealer's response. Also, my response to my son (which includes the entire original exchange with bookdealer for anyone who missed it).
NOTICE that this guy says "they" have FIVE eBay accounts. And his boast that when eBay found out who was being complained about, eBay basically blew it off because they are big time eBay dealers (and send eBay "thousands of dollars"). I wonder if they are part of the "eBay elite" referred to in the Unofficial eBay FAQ site :
http://www.frii.com/~afs/ebay/
Which, BTW, if you haven't checked out yet, I suggest you do. Some interesting stuff there, too.
Subject: [Fwd: Runtam claims]
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:40:26 -0700
From: "Douglas L. Reilly" <gobear@pacbell.com>
Reply-To: oski93@ix.netcom.com
To: runtam@pacbell.net
Jim,
I did a little spying for you and here is what I got back.
#1
Subject: Re: Runtam claims
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:26:01 EDT
From: Ebooks98@aol.com
To: oski93@ix.netcom.com
I Have a letter that another man sent to me about what he did to him, This guy
is a Jerk, I am not a chip dealer, we bought the chips in a collection, only
had 6 of them (all different) so we put them on ebay, 2 turned out to be what
I was told are Fantasy Chips, one person emailed me and was very nice about
it, so I pulled both off (before doing that I even added a note th the
descriptions, saying why we were pulling them off early) and the one that had
several bids on it I emailed the 2 highest bidders and told them, and they
thanked me for being honest, because they did not know....Then one day later
this jerk emails me with a nasty threatning letter calling me a theif and
fruad in so many words, so i responded back in kind, he tried to have me
kicked off of ebay, but when ebay knew it was me (i have been with them for a
year and a half (we have 5 account names) and have sent eBay several thousand
dollars (we do this as a full time business, not as a hobby) have had over
3,000 transactions on ebay, and we DO NOT RIP OFF Customers, We have been in
the collectibles Business for 19 Years with a store for 15 of those years,
eBay dismissed his claims and told us that..., This other man sent us a copy
of the letter that Runt sent to him (very Similer to what he sent to us) I
have sent printed copies of all of this to eBay.
Have you had problems with him as well?
Take Care
Brad
Memory Lane
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Runtam claims]
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:24:42 -0700
From: runtam <runtam@pacbell.net>
Organization: runtam
To: oski93@ix.netcom.com
Hey Red, thanks for the message -- interesting distortion of the truth.
Am reproducing below our entire email exchange. See also the
description of the lot involved (eBay Item #16031449) -- it was removed
from auction on June 7th at 16:24 (the day before the scheduled
expiration of the auction and three days AFTER my first email to him).
And notice the tone of the emails; I said nothing about fraud until
after receiving his first nasty response. I also think it's interesting
that they have five eBay accounts; I didn't think that was permissible
under eBay rules.
Anyway, here's the exchange:
> Bookdealer ran an ad (eBay item 16031449) which read:
>
> >Casino de Isthmus City - James Bond Movie $1000.00 face Value Casino Gaming Chip (A prop
> made for the Movie by the same people who make real Casino Chips, Looks like the real Thing).
> Only a few 100 were ever Made, and are Scarce., in Mint Condition, Shipping & Insurance is $2.00
> (within the U.S.) (Looks much better than the Fuzzy Scan Below)
>
> Our email exchange was as follows:
>
> > Hello codeone (and bookdealer) -- you should be aware that the James
> > Bond chip offered in ebay lot 16031449 is NOT scarce and has been made
> > by the thousands. The entire set of six ($1, 5, 25, 100, 500 and 1000)
> > can be purchased from many chip dealers for $10 or less. In bulk --
> > MINIMUM ORDER OF 100 CHIPS -- they can be purchased for 60 cents each
> > (go to www.casinocom.com/fantasymain.html for ordering information).
> > ----- Jim Reilly o\-S
> >
> ----- there was no response to this email -----
>
> > Hello hollywood.hardware (and bookdealer again)
> > -- you should be aware that the James Bond chip offered in ebay lot
> > 16031449 is NOT scarce and has been made by the thousands. The entire
> > set of six ($1, 5, 25, 100, 500 and 1000) can be purchased from many
> > chip dealers for $10 or less. In bulk -- MINIMUM ORDER OF 100 CHIPS --
> > they can be purchased for 60 cents each (go to
> > www.casinocom.com/fantasymain.html for ordering information).
> >
> > Bookdealer -- under the circumstances, and given the current high bid,
> > you should offer to void this lot and relieve the bidders of their
> > obligation to honor these bids. ----- Jim Reilly o\-S
>
> ----------------------
>
> > Hello,
> > I'll Tell you what, you have just pulled an Illeagal act on eBay,
> > and I am Turning you in, You will be removed from ebay, you are not
> > allowed to tamper with bids, and if you have cost me a sale, you will
> > also be hearing from my lawyer., I bought this chip from a dealer in
> > California who deals in actual movie props, I have only the one chip
> > to sale., I Paid $20.00 for that chip 2 years ago.......Why don't you
> > mind your own business.
> >
> > Bookdealer
> >
> ------------------
>
> > Dear Bookdealer (care to share your real name & address here?)
> >
> > I'll tell you what: false or fraudulent advertising is a criminal
> > offense (illegal under the laws of the State of California, which apply
> > to eBay auctions). Therefore, if you falsely advertised this item with
> > knowledge of the falsity of your description, you committed a criminal
> > offense.
> >
> > Furthermore, I have carefully reviewed the eBay rules and find nothing
> > which prohibits anyone from advising potential buyers that they are
> > being ripped off by false advertising. If I have cost you a "sale",
> > good. Also, feel free to "turn me in" -- I am confident that I can
> > justify my actions with eBay or anyone else who cares to call them into
> > question.
> >
> > I intend to lodge a complaint with eBay about your false lot description
> > and we'll see what they have to say about it.
> >
> > I AM a lawyer (with more than 20 years experience in criminal law in
> > California, 10 as a prosecutor and more than 10 as a defense/appellate
> > lawyer), so feel free to have your lawyer contact me at:
> > JAMES T. REILLY, Attorney at Law
> > California State Bar No. 67254
> > P. O. Box 1338
> > Mill Valley CA 94942-1338
> >
> > The fact that you may have paid $20 for this chip two years ago does not
> > justify selling it now to some other uninformed buyer at a ridiculus
> > price (as mentioned in my previous message, these chips are available in
> > quantity for as little as 60 cents each; they are also available from
> > reputable chip dealers for $1.00 to $1.50 each in smaller quantities).
> >
> > What is the name, address & telephone number of the dealer from whom you
> > bought this chip?
> >
> > I consider it the business of any knowledgeable chip collector to
> > intervene whenever possible to prevent less knowledgeable collectors
> > from being taken advantage of. If you don't like that, too bad.
> >
> ---------------------
>
> > Hello,
> > Oh yea I'm out to rip off my customers with one chip, that makes me a real
> > criminal (And a lot of sense) I have the letter that was sent to me with the
> > chip saying that it was used in the movie as a prop, I do not Appreciate your
> > threating me for listing something that I was told is a Movie Prop (by the way
> > Movie Props are not real) I was going by what I was told, as you can see by my
> > clean feedback I am an honest person., I will offer the chip to whomever is
> > the high bidder, and they can make the choice, I will tell them that there is
> > a chance that it was not used in the movie., Now after saying all that, It's
> > non of your damn Business Who I am, Who the Dealer Was that sold it to me
> > (thats between me and him) Your a complete ass in the way you stuck your nose
> > in where it did not belong, I don't give a Damn What kind of Ambulance Chasing
> > Sleeze Bag Lawyer You claim to be....You are Nothing to me.
> >
> > Bookdealer
>
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